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Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)

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Written by Duncan Mills   
Tuesday, 19 October 2004

The Dynastar Trouble Maker - a park ski designed by the Dynastar freestyle team. I took them out up at the Tignes Glacier this time with a lot more snow than two weeks ago.  Sadly...flat light - so the park was out of the question - but 4 hours piste skiing wasn't, so this will have to do until we get better weather.

Model: Dynastar Trouble Maker
Size(cm) / Radius(m): 155/16 165/18 175/21 182/22
Sidecut : 112-78-102
Length tested: 175

Manufacturer's Description:

"For New School and all mountain freestyle skiers who demand high performance, control, and great ski ability. Created for dynamic spins, maximum amplitude, and increased style in the park and pipe and natural hits."

Ski-Review’s verdict:

Last seasons graphics which have not changed much (if at all to my eyes), but which do change colour depending on which angle you look at them - pearlescent?  A very cool and distinctive base - what a tart I am!

These skis where first brought to my immediate attention, by a friend of mine who runs a ski shop, Ray Scott - he is not a freestyle skier, so I was intrigued to see what he was banging on about.

So lets go..

The bindings are mounted more or less in the middle of the ski (you either love it or hate it).  I am a fan personally, especially for the landings in the park, rails etc.

To start with I was all over the place - I just could not find my feet, I found the brakes from the bindings catching - booting out and all sorts, so I was not a happy chappy.  This went on for a hour or so until (phew!) it was lunch time.  Quick coffee and some food then back out - refreshed and educated from the mornings antics.

The light was better & more snow had fallen.

Firmly in my mind was the fact that the skis had problems carving due to the brakes catching as well as booting out (reason: no riser - not a good idea for a park ski) I had a good afternoon.  Did not thrash them around like carve ski - I just had a good days skiing looking where I was going and picking my line carefully.

Conclusion?

Not the sort of ski you thrash around the slopes, but a good fun easy ski, made for the park and that my friends, is what it does - I just can't wait to get back to Tignes when the park is open.

Reader Ski Reviews of the Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Why
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-30 00:34:51

Why did u do a review of these without going in the park or moguls? U can't carve on these, u can't turn on these. U ain't supposed to. Sigh. I find they are decent in the park, if I ever screw up a jump or something they won't catch an edge and I can pull it out.

Why Oh Why
Written by Duncan Mills on 2005-01-13 18:12:07

Yes they are not a carve ski, but if the park was shut...always make the best of a bad situation!

Candides
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-22 12:59:01

Anyone know how these differ to the old candides?

they suck!!
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-03-09 01:16:44

these skis suck the edges are so weak!!

they rock
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-04-09 13:57:04

if you read any reviews that are on a newschool sight they are one of the best all around and park pipe ski and they have fairly good edges for rails but one of the best skis i have ever ridden

Best Twins
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-04-14 12:20:56

These are the best twin tips I have ever skied on. If you can't carve them, learn to ski!

the ski doctor!
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-04-28 10:05:59

I've skied on Troublemakers on dryslope, indoor snow slopes and on 4 skiing holidays abroad! They are excellent! The base is tough (great for dry) The turn radius is the same as all the other twin tips so don't think about how they carve, they're all the same! Long tails are strange but still hold up doing 40-50mph super-g turns. Very very light and manouverable! Worth riser plates unless you spend 100% of your time doing rails! I have them, no problem of brakes catching. One down point, the top surface is weak so scratches and cuts up in the queues easily, although it means you get loads of iron cross edge marks along the font of the ski making you look like a hardcore freestyler! 
Verdict: Only Rossi Scratches are better!

Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-07-16 20:05:47

I'm hoping someone can help! I've bought some brand new Dynastar Troublemakers from Ebay. I wasn't sure if they'd be the right kind of ski for me, but they were a bargain at £75 so I decided to get them, and if they're not right for me, I'll sell them on when the skiing season gets underway. Thing is, If I fit bindings and give them a go (I ski on realish snow at Castleford slope), they won't be brand new anymore, so I won't be able to sell them as such. Although I want to to have my first taste of off-piste, jumps and half-pipes this winter, I'll be on the piste 99% of the time. So my question is does anyone know anything about how these skis perform, and if so, do you think they'd be suitable for a lot of time on-piste? I'd say my level is probably intermediate... I'm happiest on the red slopes, but haven't ventured onto any blacks yet.

the above
Written by duncanmills on 2005-07-24 21:36:14

I am actually a owner of pair of these skis, and I will happily ski around the piste on them, you got an alpine bargain for £75!

Buy them/Sell them
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-08-14 10:11:35

Buy them, then sell them to a hood on the street for some crack, that is what these skis are good for!

candides
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-11-07 19:43:31

i loved my candides....why did i sell them for 1080's that blew an edge on my first run? F

sweet
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-12-08 20:52:58

my buddy has a pair of these with salomon bindings for $100...i was planning on buying line invaders though. are these skis soft enough to pull nutty butters on?

Excellent Skis
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-12-20 20:29:05

I purchased these skis and have had nothing but good experiences ever since. I'm not sure why there are even negative comments regarding this ski. These skis were not designed to carve and if you buy them for carving then you are silly. These skis carve very well considering their price and they are top performers as far as i'm concerned. Pound for pound the best ski I have ever bought.

The real deal rundown on troublemakers
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-12-24 05:36:01

heres the deal, they carve quite well, hold an edge very nicely in pipe, are amazing on jumps (Always willing to support your ass on backseat landings) and flex well enough to butter but still stiff enough to jump. 
 
now that sounds like the perfect park ski doesnt it? 
 
unfortunetly these skis have very weak edges, which are prone to falling out much quicker than most skis. The edge teeth only go about half as deep into the ski as your regular edge on any other ski, this is a big problem.

not good all-mountain
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-08 17:09:13

Great for the park and quick turns. Not so great for much else. If your looking for a more versatile twin, buy something else, these skis are way to soft for all-mountain skiing.

i ski on these
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-10 22:22:50

i can carve on these skis and theyr sweet in the park if you want edges get some carving skis

had em for 2 years
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-02-02 00:51:52

nice and fatty, great in powder, especially with fat manuels(great flex)

one season
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-02-04 20:45:34

well at first I loved them, but this season they have been a bitch to me. the edges stared to fall out and I cracked the core and there are so felxy that I have to land everything super clean. so over all I don't like them much 

had these one year, really happy
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-02-05 14:40:57

if you're used to race/carve skis these feel odd at first but when you get used to having such long tails you'll soon be tearing up hard pack like you were on GS race planks and there's plenty of grip - not limitless, but ok. they're stiff enough for bashing through crud but have got just the right flex pattern to be forgiving to land on in the park. maybe i've been lucky but i've had no problem with the edges despite tearing big chunks out of the bases on rocks and rails. i only wish they were a bit fatter for deeper powder days...thats where the big troubles come in i suppose.

spinnylishush
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-02-18 04:48:34

the edges r great for spins, and as someone said, the tails are great at supporting u if u are about to land on your ass

do you all ski the bunny hill?
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-02-23 17:15:28

i can carve my troubles easy..granted thats not there intended purpous but i think they can do what ever you whant them to. the bottoms are realy tough i mean realy and the 06 has a thicker edge under foot for the rail great skis all around steeps bumps pow and the park its not the ski its the skier in most cases..latz...ski TAos

Center mount bindings
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-11-08 11:16:26

I was looking at buying a pair of these for all-mountain and was wondering if anyone has tried them with the bindings behind center. Also how do they compare to the K2 PE and the new Silencer?

Dynastar TMs
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-11-20 09:55:05

These are great park/pipe skis but they suffer from edge durability. The newer models have improved edges with a double edge. Check it out. It's awesome for rails. 
 
Dynastar Troublemaker gear review by Brian

Want some
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-01-31 12:35:35

Does anyone know a pair of Troublemakers for a decent price? I am looking for a pair but do not want to spend a bunch.

Trouble Makers suck! What?
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-02-25 19:02:06

These rock! Have skied on these for many weeks on end, and they are the "mutts nutts"!! I strongly suggest you have some ski lessons if you can't carve these puppies!!

Great all mountain boards
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-05-07 05:37:03

I've been skiing on the Trouble Maker for several years. If ou know how to ski, they carve, ski great in the moguls & obvioucly are a good park ski. The only concerns I have with this ski are in deep powder. The tips submerge fairly easy. A great bargin. Whoever doesn't like this ski, can't ski..... 
 
End of story

are you all stupid?
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-10-22 00:26:10

ive skied these for two years now and they are as legit as it gets. ive done everything from rails bumps trees backyards urban and even 20inches of fresh pow at alta and they killed it at everything. i also ski tons of groomers in the east and i can carve better and faster than the whole friken race team. if yu can't carve these babies you should probably just quit at life.

Great Tele
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2008-02-13 05:45:55

My wife has been patroling these skis at Loveland, Tele for three years. I think the soft issue helps with the tele. Now she wants a bigger T1 boot and some stiffer skis. It will be hard to replace these with something that does everything well.

center mount
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2008-02-16 15:41:26

should i center mount mine? what are the pros and cons for center mounting and where else do people mount these?

Awesome Skis
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2008-02-17 02:56:34

This year, is needed new skis. I looked at the k2 public enemys and the salomon 1080 foils, then i saw the dynastar trouble makers. they look good and feel good. They are great for the entire mountain. Groomed, powder, and the park. If your looking for a great ski, buy the dynastar trouble makers. I'm glad I did! 
 
 

mint
Written by Ski Review Guest on 2008-10-09 10:20:28

dude, if u cant carve these, your probably not on the snow

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