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More than anything I touched this season, The Volkl Supersport Six Star is THE new all mountain beast. Without summing up the review in the introduction text, this ski has it all, does it all, and looks stylish while doing so.
Model: Supersport Six Star Size(cm) / Radius(m): 154/12.1 161/13 168/14.4 175/15.9 182/17.5 Sidecut: 114-68-99
Manufacturer's Description:
"Volkl has created a new ski category this is deseigned for the true high performance skier, the king of the hill. Every Supersport model features the winning Supersport formula: a combination of a stable race ski construction, and agressive sidecut (not FIS approved) for deep arcs, and a wider waist that can handle all snow conditions."
Ski-Review's Verdict:
Maybe I am being too generous here, but apart from one slight flaw, The Volkl Supersport Six Star are perfect. They will drop into pretty much any size turns from the fall line and give strong positive feedback about the snow beneath you.
This is a ski that will introduce you, in more than a subtle way, to the G-Force that can be achieved skiing…even without getting your lower body parallel to the snow on turns.
The Six Star encourages an ability curve increase, purely because you have to be leaning forward putting pressure on the fronts of the skis when ‘hooning’ or the ride can seem like skiing over lots of little rocks. That’s not a bad thing however, and encourages an aggressive style while still allowing an elegant technique.
You may think the ski is hugging its manufacturer specified radius like a train on rails, but then you tighten up a little more and boom, you are instantly proved wrong. A ‘wide’ 68mm in the waist means powder is more than skiable, even in the 168. Go for the longer 175 if you want even more of an all mountain experience.
The backs of the Six Stars do not agree with the backs slipping round, so if you are going reasonably fast and want to pull a couple of these turns, then be careful and pay attention to balance, as they may not react as you may expect. The steeper reds and black runs however benefit from this aspect. Jump into a turn and the ski grips very early springing you up and the opposite way with less effort than you might imagine! It’s a lot of fun and very much a confidence building exercise.
Conclusion?
If you can, buy/hire/beg/steal a pair of these and take them round the whole valley. Ear to ear smiles are ensured all around the mountain and they will open up new terrain for those wishing to improve.
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Dan put it best Written by caledonpro on 2004-10-07 20:18:55
Great last year. The forebody has been tweaked a bit resulted in better performance when skied ahead of collar neutral. Like a Slalom Race ski, the 6 Star should be skied short. An agile carver with super edge grip and very solid and reassuring at speed. Even at 200lbs I prefer the 168cm version. Even the 161 is more ski than you would think and FUN at smaller "vertically challenged" ski areas. | Written by racerturbo on 2004-10-13 16:46:56
Having skied the 6 Star in 175 for 3 months I was very happy after having ruined the skis in a steep and deep off piste run. I was unsatisfied with this pair as the grip on hard icy runs was quite poor. From my point of view the tip is too hard for deep powder runs. | Caldenpro - Question for You Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-11-04 22:53:32
I'm expert, 5'8", 145 lbs. I take it 161 is enough ski? | Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-11-06 01:53:53
It depends. Try 161 and 168, whatever you like best. I am about your size and 161 would be awesome!!! They are quick and snappy. | Reply to Guest, re . . . sizing Written by caledonpro on 2004-11-11 16:58:08
The comment below your question is good advice. I do disagree with "Racerturbo's" comments, but the 175 is a lot of ski and not as agile as the 161 & 168. A friend of mine who weighs 240 and stands 6'3' is racing in "Adult League" bought the 175 on my suggestion,and he loves them. I suggested them for another friend who weighs about 150, and he bought the 161cm. My 200 lbs is much happier on the 168. BOTTOM LINE; try them both. If you're not impressed with edge grip or if you don't like them on ice, CHECK THE TUNE. | five star or six star Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-11-23 15:39:57
Recently had all of my alpine equipment stolen from our storage area. Haven't bought skis since late eighties. (Basically, I was too cheap to invest in anything new and I had fun and others had to try to keep up with me on the old straight sticks.) I'm 36, 6'2" and will probably fluctuate between 190 to 200 lbs for the foreseeable future. I ski agressively making many rapid short turns on any slope I want with knees locked together, hit jumps and like to go through the trees when I'm out west. I want a ski to handle hard pack and some icy conditions but that I will still enjoy when I go out west and off trail or back bowl. Occassionally (once a day or maybe twice) I'll let 'em run straight and I'll tuck and enjoy some real speed down the entire run (not like an out of control beginner). However, while this is an eye watering challenge, I enjoy the workout and rhythm of skiing my rapid parallel turns. One day when I was 23 or so I had been skiing for a few hours and noticed they were running NASTAR Bud Light Challenge races. I was by myself and decided what the heck, I'll try it. I ended up being ranked 5th or 7th (can't remember, it's on a poster in storage) of all competitors from my state. Anyway.....that is the type of skier I am. Of course everything has changed now. Fatter and shorter and evidently requires a new style. Oh well. I'm considering the Volkl five star and six star, the Rossignol Bandit B1, and the Atomic Metron ex, 11 and 10 and last years R11. First off, have you skied the five star and could you shed some light on the differences that I should notice between how it would ski related to the six star? Secondly, would you share some advice in choosing between the skis I've listed above? Thirdly, am I off base and would you recommend I look at a different ski? I don't want a ski made in China (like some K2's I just saw in a shop). I'm sure quality control is good.....it's just a personal preference. Thank you, Keith P. Seymour | five star or six star additional info Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-11-23 15:44:59
I forgot to add that when moguls form on the small eastern slopes I'm nearest to, I ski them almost all day unless my wife or friends want to go somewhere else. When I go out west for a week and there are good moguls I'll probably devote 3 half days to them. So please include this information with my first posting above when making any recommendations. Thank you, Keith P. Seymour | Six Star Written by RiDeC on 2004-11-29 20:11:22
I skiied this short (162) and was surprised by how quick, light and maneuverable it seemed. I have skiied the 5-star before and have heard that the 6-star was stiff and unforgiving in comparison. Yes, the 5-star was "easier" in some ways, but I had no trouble with the 6-star even on the widespread moderate bumps (that is no more trouble than I have with any other ski in bumps). I really enjoyed this ski. It held a great edge on the frozen back-sides and seemed almost light compared to several of the skis I used this day. | Question for RiDeC Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-11-30 16:32:59
How much do you weigh? When you skiied the 5 star, was it the same length? If so, could you elaborate on the ways it was "easier"? I'm really struggling to decide between the 5star and 6 star so any additional input on the differences would be helpful. Thanks, Keith P. Seymour | Length Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-09 10:40:32
I'm 6 foot 4 and weigh +/- 200 lb. Is the 168 a good length for me? | Another length question Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-09 18:33:31
I'm 6'1" and 205-210. I was told by someone in a ski shop that 168 would be too short, and to go with 175. Is that right? | Lenghts Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-10 01:11:37
Dear guest, The ski-shop told me, with my 6 foot 4 and 200 lb, to go with the 175 version as well, so i figure that'll be the right lenght for us. Regards, Coen Lampe | supersport 5 0r 6 Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-20 02:08:30
Will these skis hold up in deep powder, tree sking. I am from out west and found the exp not quick enough. Thanks | compared to 724 EXP?? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-20 22:18:26
I am a former racer (female, 5'6", 140 lbs) and looking for some new skis. I demo'd the 6 stars last year and loved them... BUT, now I am entertaining the idea of buying the 724 EXP. I am a fast, aggressive skier - who likes to ski the whole mountain, but often defers to moderate GS turns when I am on groomers. Has anyone tried both models? Thoughts? thanks, Kate | supersport 5 0r 6 Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-23 00:12:48
i skied the ss 5 today. this is a class ski, it hugs the hill and carves real well. very light compared to the fischer 9 (the green one) i used the last 3 days. i used a 168 length. i weigh 200 and am 6 ft tall. did not feel a need for more length. have not skied the ss6 but judging by the flex it would seem best for ice. you do not need that stiffer flex here at aspen. there is plenty of bite and spring in the ss5. regards, rob | 5 star / 6 star difference Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-27 00:59:57
in response to what is the difference between the 5 and 6 star ? there are a few visual differences, firstly the rails on which the motion bindings sit , are alluminium on the 6's and plastis on the 5's also the 6's have the new double carbon edge grip as opposed the just double edge grip and finally the 6's are a litlle more tuned with torsional stiffness. i went for the 6's - didnt fancy the plastic rails to be honest (and i dont like red) but im sure either are awesome!!!! | 5 star/6 star difference Written by Ski Review Guest on 2004-12-28 22:43:53
I am 5'8", 165 and because of a long illness this fall am a little out of shape. I'm a good but not great skier, comfortable almost anywhere (gullies-yes, bowls-yes, steeps with moguls-yes, chutes-no, steeps with trees-no). I get only 15-20 ski days a year on a wide variety of terrain (east, west). I ski with my kids (very fast), with my gf (moderate), and friends (in between). Bumps are an addiction with me- if they are there, I gotta take em. Over the last few days I skied the new 5star, 2003 5 star, new 6 star and some Head M-75 at Taos (all 161-163). The 6 stars are absolutely amazing at speed on rough hardpack and ice. They are a total joy to ski very fast. But, they are a lot of work in deep moguls and, frankly, they wore me out, even on 161. It is also work to ski them at slow or moderate speed. The 2003-04 5 stars were a nice ski, especially in the bumps, but did not seem to have the edge grip that the 6 star did. The new five stars seemed to have the best of both. Softer and more forgiving in the bumps than the 6 stars. With the new double edge grip (difference between new and 2004, but not exactly the same as the new 6 stars), they were a lot more like the 6 stars than the old 5 stars, though not as fast a ski. The choice depends on your ability, level of fitness, and most importantly where and how you want to ski. The more you ski bumps, the more the your choice would be pushed toward the five stars. The more you ski very fast GS the more it pushes you toward the six stars. Incidentally, the six stars got a lot of laughs and a "these are awesome" out of my jaded 16 year old son(5'11", 180 on 168s). Sometimes it's hard to separate wishful thinking from reality. I wish I could ski the 6stars like my son and muscle them through the bumps for 20 runs a day. I wish I could ski in enough powder to make the Head Monster-75, the M-85s or volkl 724pro to be a reasonable choice. The reality is that the 5-stars seems to be a better all around ski for me. It skis fast (but without the stability of the 6 star when going very very fast). It properly loads at moderate speed. It's good in bumps. If I were only going to ski very fast on groomers, I'd get the six stars. If I didn't love bumps I'd considerthe longer turning, wider 724 exp or pro.
| Can anyone compare the 6 star to the 724 Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-04 09:45:14
I'm 5`9 180lbs and coming off 180 Extremes. I treid the 6 stars and loved them. But I have heard that they are not good off piste. Can anyone tell me if the 724 exps are as good as the 6 stars? and if they are better off piste? Or maybe an alternative? Also what length? I am an expert skier and am nervous getting skis too short... Thanks!!! -Ted | 6 star off-piste Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-07 19:27:50
I skied the 6 stars as soon as the slopes opened at Heavenly following an 8+ foot dump. The snow consolidated to make the powder between knee and hip deep. Whoever says these skis don't do powder, has not been on them. They clearly ski deeper than a 90+ mm waist ski, but are extremely manuverable in trees, and will arc down the fall line fast and stable. They will carve RR tracks on the groomed, hold on ice, and yes, they have a sweet spot in deep powder. Current storm is progged to drop another 5 feet. See you on the backside! | Volkl 6 Star Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-11 15:02:30
At 5'11" and 185lbs I'm skiing the 2005 model 6 Star in a 175...love it! Was unsure about the hype surrounding this ski, but after recently putting it through its paces at Breck, Keystone, and Copper I can confirm that this is one versatile ski that is a blast to ride. Short turns, long turns, bumps, ice, five inches of fresh, two inches of crud...all are handled with aplomb. The ski does prefer short radius turns, and rewards those who are willing to work with loads of rebound. Provides great feel for the snow and is surprisingly responsive at slower speeds. This ski is very seductive...it's so much fun to work that I found myself nearly exhausted by early afternoon each day. Fortunately the 6 Star is great fun while cranking long turns on gentle groomers. My afternoons were spent recovering on the intermediates. | Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-12 14:38:59
I'm 5'8" 140lbs. I am skiing on the Atomic Beta Race 9.12 from a couple seasons ago. Now that I don't race anymore, I'm thinking I want to try the 6 Star out. My Atomics are 150cm and I love them. Of course, they're pretty darn short on me. I don't spend much time in powder though. I'm wondering which length to try out. 161 sounds a bit scary. Happy snow! Melissa | Northwest skier Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-17 06:35:35
I just tried the (168 cm) Six Stars today (I am 5' 11" and 185 lb). I have some mixed reviews. The skies were like a super sport car : fast responsibe and very easy to manuver- this sport car really struggles when the snow gets over a foot deep - no float in deep and heavier snow. Perfect moggol ski (no so deep though) | 724 Pro vs. 6 Star Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-19 13:23:40
Demo'd both today back to back, both in 177. 5'11, 195. I consider myself advanced to expert and love fast carving on the groomers and going off piste as much as practical. On the hard pack the 6 was incredible - edge, turn intiation, rebound were unlike anything I've been on (been skiing volkls for last 5 years. However in moguls I found them way to stiff, and not enough float for powder, and miserable in crud rough stuff. OTOH, the 724 pro, despite claims of being a very stiff ski has a much wider flex pattern, and while not as responsive on the hard pack was absolutely superb in powder, crud, moguls, and just about everything. It's carving is still superb, but just not as hyper-drive pwerful as the 6 star. In perspective the 724 Pro still makes my older P40 Platinums feel like they are skiing lead in slush. If you are a volkl fan and want to do reall all mountain there is no comparison. If serious high speed cruising, mild moguls, and minor powder is most of your skiing the 6 stat is probably a better bet. 2 very different, superbly capable skiis IMO. | Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-20 05:41:37
So I am looking at trading a pair of Volkl 724 pros 184 for a of 6 stars 182. I am 6' 1' 240 strong skier. My every day ski is a 188 g4 that i love. I am looking at the 6 stars for the hard day in CO. What do you guys that of the 182 for myself? | Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-20 23:14:29
I would look in the 175 cm length. These skis are very stable and need not be too long. If you are planning to take them in the rough snow (not very effective due to stiff tip) I would look in a longer length since they do have a tight sweet spot in powder. Crud and heavy snow? find a different ski. | 5 star vs. 6 star demoed in Aspen Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-21 07:33:06
I'm 5'10,170lbs , 44 years old with 40 years skiing experience. Expert skier at high speed GS turns, hard slalom turns in all snow conditions groomed, powder,crud,wind blown,bumps,etc.My current skis are 188cm. Volkl G31s, and Volkl 178cm. G4s Now to the review......I demoed the 6 star in a 168 and 175, then tried a 175 5 star this week in Aspen. Here's the deal.....168 6 stars can do it all but are scary at speed becase of the size, and don't seem to flex much but hold like your on a rail! 175 6 stars hold an edge with no problem on top to bottom runs on Aspen Mtn. at downhill speeds putting a big smile on your face. Quick turners in the fall line but to stiff for bumps. These boards are for strong skiers who are in excellent shape.As far as 168 vs 175 goes , All the Aspen expert skiers I skied with are on boards 180 and up. Yes the 168 will do the job but you don't have to be 250lbs. to ski the 175. The 175 flexs more and is more solid at speed.So on to the 5 star in a 175 cm., softer flex, easier to ski, more forgiving in the bumps but you have to work alot harder to hold an edge at GS speeds. Conclusion......Both the 6 stars rip long and short turns but at the end of the day, my legs (quads) were hammered. So I'm thinking 5 stars in a 175 giving up a little high speed grip for a more versatel all mountain ski. There you have it!
| 5 star vs. 6 star demoed in Aspen Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-21 07:37:59
I'm 5'10,170lbs , 44 years old with 40 years skiing experience. Expert skier at high speed GS turns, hard slalom turns in all snow conditions groomed, powder,crud,wind blown,bumps,etc.My current skis are 188cm. Volkl G31s, and Volkl 178cm. G4s Now to the review......I demoed the 6 star in a 168 and 175, then tried a 175 5 star this week in Aspen. Here's the deal.....168 6 stars can do it all but are scary at speed becase of the size, and don't seem to flex much but hold like your on a rail! 175 6 stars hold an edge with no problem on top to bottom runs on Aspen Mtn. at downhill speeds putting a big smile on your face. Quick turners in the fall line but to stiff for bumps. These boards are for strong skiers who are in excellent shape.As far as 168 vs 175 goes , All the Aspen expert skiers I skied with are on boards 180 and up. Yes the 168 will do the job but you don't have to be 250lbs. to ski the 175. The 175 flexs more and is more solid at speed.So on to the 5 star in a 175 cm., softer flex, easier to ski, more forgiving in the bumps but you have to work alot harder to hold an edge at GS speeds. Conclusion......Both the 6 stars rip long and short turns but at the end of the day, my legs (quads) were hammered. So I'm thinking 5 stars in a 175 giving up a little high speed grip for a more versatel all mountain ski. There you have it!
| 5 star or 6 star? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-22 06:14:00
From the review above it seems like the 5 star might be better for me. I am 6'1" 225lbs. I would say I am an intermediate to advanced skier. I ski in the Northeast so mainly icy or groomed conditions. I like making turns and carving...I don't ski very fast and no bumps. I have been skiing on 10 year old rossignols at 195. So I am sure anything I get now will be an upgrade. I think my decision is leaning towards the 5 star at 175. Any opinions? Thanks! | 6 Star vs. Superspeed Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-24 22:24:51
Howdy -- Has anyone out there compared the Volkl Supersport 6 Star to the Volkl Supersport Superspeed? I am interested in any input or observations from those who have tried both. Thanks. | 6 Star vs. Superspeed Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-25 23:42:08
I'm a 6'4" 225 lbs racer and am skiing on 175cm 6 star in mostly eastern conditions (hard pack, ice) and I love these skis. They do anything I can throw at them, long, short at slow and high speeds. The edge grip is great. I also ski Atomic SL:11 (165cm) and Volkl P60 GC Racing (182cm) but I find the 6 star to be a fun all around ski. This last weekend I was able to test a superspeed in a 168 and a 175 cm length. My local pro shop suggests that I should go with the 182 cm but only so that I have something different from the 6 star. The Superspeed had fantastic edge grip compared to the 6 star. The Superspeed is a beefier ski and was more comfortable at speed and in longer radius turns. Though at the shorter length I could get it to ski like the 6 star in turn radius. For this much ski I was surprised at how responsive the Superspeed was. There was a lot of pop and I could easily drive from turn to turn. My skiing partner could not believe the acceleration with the Superspeed. My initial thought was this ski is one of the best after I tried the 175cm. Similar to the 6 star but built to rock at speed. Bottom line is that they are both great skis for different purposes (fun vs speed). When I get the cash I will buy a pair of 182cm Superspeeds to add to the fun.
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I'm an advance skiier normally ski on 203 gs ski's. i am considering the 6 star in a 185 or 175. i ski in utah and upper michigan. i ski fast and on hard packed/step if possible. would you recommend this ski. thanks | Salomon Scream Limited Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-28 16:39:31
I need to find out whether I should buy the Scream Limited's or the Metron M:10's. I ski mostly ice-hardpack and an agressive intermediate skiier.thx | 6 Star vs. Superspeed Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-01-30 20:32:17
To the person who gave all the feedback to my original question, thanks. It was very helpful. I love speed, but I think the 6 star will fit more of my needs. Enjoy the rest of your ski season! | Olympic team wannabe Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-04 22:33:01
now 49, been sking for 48 years all around the world, but mostly Colorado. I'm 5'10"/180lbs. Most recent ski? vintage (1985) Volkl 207cm Explosive R SL..the perfect ski for fall line tight, very tight turns at high speed. Just bought the 6Star 182cm's. WOW what a ski. expecting little from the new short/radical shape skis, I'm stunned by the ability to ski my old style with no change in technique required. Previously demo'ed 5Star 175cm's and found them too short/soft with too much tail washout. These 6 Stars meeet my neeeds completely. For those thinking short is where its at, I want long, stiff and responsive for fast fall line slalom, tight slalom, skiing! (used to be called wedlen turns) Scary good!! | superspeed Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-06 15:38:33
Just demoed the Superspeeds yesterday after a ski rack "malfunction" on the way up to Mammoth. I wanted something for the bumps, but the tech said they were out of just about everything in my size that would be an expert ski, good for the bumps. The only thing they had left was the Superspeed. The tech said I would probably hate them, and they would be horrible in the bumps, but I could take them and ski over to the Main Lodge and trade them out. Well, I ended up skiing these all day....mostly in the bumps. They rocked. I believe their forte is GS turns at speed, cuz they just rocketed down the slopes and held like a car on the Matterhorn at Disneyland. But I was surprised at how good they were in the bumps. I did find myself getting behind them at first on big bumps, but if you just drive them hard and stay forward they will shred. Super responsive. Get in the back seat and they turn on the turbo. You'll need to be pretty strong to stay with them. My legs weren't sore or burning at the end of the day (like another poster stated), and I skied them really hard. I've got really stong and conditioned legs though. Me: 42 yo, 6', 185, expert, aggressive type III, if there is a choice of bumps or not, I'll choosed the bumps. I'm trying the Rossi B1 and the 6 star today. | SX:10 vs. 5 Star Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-08 19:02:49
I am a 30 year skier, 42 yo, 175 lbs., who has slowly given into shorter lengths and more versatile skis as my age and condition has required. I.e., a few years ago gave up the Rossi 4s's, for Bandit X's but insisted on 193's, then moved down to same ski on 184's, now want something quicker turning and easier to maneuver in the moguls, as mine feel floppy. Consiering the Atomic SX:10 in 170 length and the Volkl 5 Star in 175's. Any comments or experiences would be appreciated, especially anyone who has skied both! | 6 Star: Year Comparisons & Boots Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-18 02:16:25
I demoed the 6 Stars last year in Zermatt. Like the person above, it felt like the Disneyland Matterhorn ride, except with the "real" Matterhorn in the background. Has anyone compared the '03/'04 model to this years' model? Also, I skied on them with rental boots. Can anyone recommend a boot to buy that would go best with these skies? | Replacing G3's Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-19 16:45:22
I raced in the Murren Inferno this year but crashed out at speed early doors and broke one of my Vertigo G3's (why I was using these for a DH race I will never know) and am keen to stick with Volkl. I can see that things have moved on a bit. I am 240 pounds and around 6ft - ski most things aggresively on piste and take it a little easier off piste (primarily Europe based so powder is not like NA at the best of times). I have heard alot about the 6 stars and think these are the boys for me. My G3's were 184's - what should I be aiming for and is there anything else I should be thinking of. | 161 or 168 Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-20 04:17:44
Im approx 170-165 lbs, 5'11. Im getting mixed opinions about sizing the six star; im an agressive skier on the east coast, menaing hardpack, so should i go with the 161 or 168 | gamma supersport Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-20 23:40:10
I have been told by the store that I should get a 147 (!!!) in the new 5 star gamma supersport. I'm expert, 5'3" and 135 pounds. Currently skiing on 4-year old atomic 170's. Does this size sound right? | 2003-04, 175 vs 168 6 stars Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-23 05:18:44
When the 6 stars first came out in 2003-04 I bought the 175cm length and they quickly became my favorite ski. After skiing on them for most of the season I was told that the 168 length would be better for me since I was 5' 11" and 175 lbs. I bought them in the shorter length and found them to be even more enjoyable and fast! I was able to make quicker turns and the speed at which I skiied increased! I had not been a fast skiier nor did I want to ski fast. The 168's pushed me to a new level. This season I was using the 168's in fresh snow (approx 4") and after 2 runs my legs were toast! I decided to rent something for all conditions and the closest they had to my atomic sugar daddy skis were a pair of atomic metron B5's. These skis were awsome in crud! I did not realize until later on that they were 172 cm long. Now I want to get these for my all condition skis while keeping the 6 stars and my suggar daddy's. I do think that I should go down in size on the metrons, 172 seems too long even though I had a blast on them. -Mike | continuation from above post Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-23 05:23:54
The 175's were the 1200 bindings. The 168's have the piston binding that is mounted under the boot. The piston really makes a noticable difference! The newer skis use the pcos piston which protruded out the front of the binding and attaches closer to the tip of the ski. Because of this the newer 6 stars will feel softer than the previous generation! I have yet to try the 2004-05 version, but I am tempted to do so one of these days. -Mike | NorthEast Skier Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-24 15:19:48
I haven't bought skis in a few years so I am anxious to get a new pair. I currently skiing on 1st generation parabolic 195 cm Salomon skis. I know that now there are so many models to choose from so I need YOUR help. I am 6'3", 185 lbs and an advanced to expert skier who does most of his skiing in the Northeast. I am an aggressive and usually fast skier and I usually stay on the diamonds skiing bumps as much as possible, glades and I also enjoy high-speed GS runs. I have done a lot of reading of the ski reviews and seem to have it narrowed it down to Volkl 5 star and Rossignol B1s both at 175cm. Anyone have a recommendation of what would be best for me? Thanks for you help. micha3y@yahoo.com | Steamboat Test Drives by Juvy Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-27 05:37:53
Just returned from Steamboat and tested a number of skis including: Volkl 724 EXP (170 CM) Volkl 5 Star (161 CM) Salomon Equipe 10 SC Pilot (170 CM) K2 Apache Recon (170 CM) Atomic M:ex (165 CM) Prior to my demos at Steamboat I was at Sunday River, ME and tested: Rossignol B2 (170 CM) My reviews: I'm 5'9" 145 lbs.. 44 years old (37 years of skiing) expert skier on all terrain Excellent physical condition Currently skiing the Salomon X-Scream (179 CM) I love my X-Scream but seek a more stable platform at high speed and better edge grip on ice; of course all this without foregoing the joy in bumps, trees, and powder that my X-screams deliver... big challenge but lots of new skis on the market. My findings so far: Atomic M:ex (165 CM) - uncomfortable from the moment I steped into them. I found these skis to be goofy, like a Saab... The ski likes to turn, and turn and turn. In fact, if you don't keep these on edge in a turn, they are all over the place because of the large and radical geometry. Also, I did not enjoy them in the bumps as they had a tendancy to run up the bump due to the large tip, and the short length left me wanting more tail out of each turn... I felt like I was on a pair of skates (and I play hockey). Leave these for the old-timers that need help making a turn. K2 Recon (170 CM) - nice bump, tree and power ski, good in the crud, and reasonable edge to edge quickness for most off-piste skiing. I found it too slow to respond at speed on groomers due to its wider waist under foot. Also, very unstable/chattery at higher speed due to the wide and soft shovel; the ski will get squirly if you get off edge when laying them out on the groomers, keep it below 30 and you'll be in safe territory. If I was fortunate enough to ski powder and bumps every day, this would be a fun ski. Not for New England that's for sure!! Rossignol B2 (170 CM) - Nearly identical to the K2 but a little sharper and quicker in its overall edge to edge response. Consider this if If you ski powder and bumps a lot, or want a softer more compliant ride... nice board!! Salomon Equipe (170 CM) - very similar to my X-Scream in flex, but the Equipe is much faster edge to edge on the groomers and holds you in a turn even longer. The larger shovel tip dives you into the turn and keeps the G's comming on strong. At high speed (30 MPH+) the ski is unsettling because it seems to lack heft. Relatively easy to ski in bumps because of the soft structure, but the tip is just too wide to make the bump runs pleasurable because the ski tends to be drivin by the mogul. This is a great ski for speeds 30MPH or less on groomers where you want to carve a lot of slalom turns and want tail energy on the finish of every turn (lots of fun here!!). But they are just OK when off-piste, in powder, though crud or bumps, or at high speed. Volkl 5 Star (161 CM) - I wanted the 168 CM but they were already checked out... this ski had a nice stable feel and I could pound it through any terrain at just about any speed. The breaking point that I found was at high speed on groomers where I wanted more edge to hold the turn longer. Also, I found that this ski lacked a little engery for quick edge to edge response on the groomers; the tail did not load-up like the salomon ski. This may have been corrected with a longer ski, or with the 6 Star which I was unfortunately not able to test due to availability. The geometry (tip to tail) was very good for the bumps, trees, through crud, powder and moderate steeps. Overall, I felt this was a true all mountain ski for and advanced skier but a hard skiing expert will pound it to death and want more edge and stability at speeds over 30 MPH. I hope to try the 6 Star on a 168 CM to eliminate the weaknesses I found in this ski. Volkl 274 EXP (170 CM) - This ski was a joy... very stable at speed, great tracking through the bumps, enough geometry to carry you through all but the deepest of powder, solid like a bullet through the crud, and good energy side to side. The only issue I had with the 724 EXP was at high speed on groomers where it was a challenge to dig the edge in deep to hold a sharp carve. I think this was exclusively a factor of its 74mm waist. I practically touched my shoulder to the ground and still had a hard time getting these to bite hard at speed. Conlcusion - I hope the 6 Star at 168 CM can deliver the all-mountain (bumps, trees, powder, crud, groomers) capability of the 724 EXP, but with better edge grip/carving at speed. If so, it is the all mountain champ for expert level skiers.... | western skier Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-02-28 18:40:23
Looking to buy Volkl 5 star,or 4 star or 724Pro skis.Am an intermediate to advanced skier. 74 years old,162 lbs.5'6".Any recomendations will be appreciated. | Volkl or Atomic Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-03-01 16:31:20
Mainly east coast skier. But loves to go fast and make big GS turns. 5'11 175lbs. Volkl 5 or 6 stars or Atomic m:ex puls-ti. Last skis were those pink Atomic GS skis 203cm. Been working and having kids past 6 years. All my girls are sking now and I need to treat myself? Any recomendations? | elliott Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-03-13 04:54:27
I skied the04/05 5star in St. Moritz on manmade. they hadn't had a snowfall yet. I demo'd the 168 brand new (I was the first user of the season on this rental). They flew over the mountain like wildfire. I'm 5'6" / 160 and a 40 year expert skier. Without a doubt - an incredible ski. (by the way, I currently still ski my Atomic 9.22 beta rides in a 180cm and will go to the Vokl 5 star 168cm no doubt. Oh I'm primarily an eastern skier and do GS and short swing and can tuck it when I want. I put this ski into everything I could! Happy trails! | help with size for Gamma ski Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-03-21 20:01:37
Hi, I'm going to buy the 5start in the women's model and am trying to decide between 154 and 161 length. i tried both but unfortunately was only able to test them in powder conditions, which is NOT why i'm buying these skis. i want flexibility in bumps but i also want to maintain speed on groomers, especially hardpack. i am 5'6" and weigh 143 pounds, advanced skier but not overly aggressive but i do ski fast on my volants. any help most welcome!!! | WOW Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-03-28 13:05:33
These skis are HOT! I have skiied everything from 225cm Downhill race 2x4's to pansy skis and these skis absoltutely ROCK! From steep to deep they are teh true all mountain ski that will keep you coming back for more. | 4 star to 6 star, P60s? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-03-30 14:00:44
I m an itermediate to advanced skier. I skied on the 4 stars and found them to be an easy handling ski to give me confidence and get me onto the advanced slopes, i started to find them a bit boring so I wanted to buy the 5 star, none available, so i got the 6s with some element of doubt, they are incredible, more definate feel and grip on the ice. I ski mostly in the Cairngorms and Glenshee in my native Scotland where the snows is often frozen. I m 5 '10 "and weigh 170 lbs. I have the 161 , i prefer slalom cross style and find them the perfect ski for this. Has anyone tried the P60 sc v the 6 star? regards, Angus | is this ski the best our what? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-05-18 08:46:03
i my opinion the best ski for all surfaces. handles well on ice and powder alike. only bettered by its bigger brother(superspeed) | Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-05-31 15:31:24
6stars rock it in just about any on piste situation. i skiied both 5's and 6's but felt that the 5's, having the softer shovel, were prone to washing out towards the end of the turn. The 6's performed reasonably in the powder (about 4 feet of it) as long as you kept your weight back. if you really wanna ski powder and on piste your better to buy two different skis rather than compromising and trying to find a ski that does everything. the atomic big daddys, fischer big stix 108's or the seth pistols make for unreal powder skis | 175 or 168? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-08-24 00:37:10
I'm a 6 foot 3, 180 pound, high school ski team racer who'd like a versatile ski for both slalom and gs. Should I get the 175 or 168 6 star? | For the High School Jock Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-11-01 15:16:52
I'm 5'9" 185# over 50 yrs. skiing on Volkl 6 Stars @ 168, and occaisonally wishing they were 175s, so I'd go longer. | which size Written by Ski Review Guest on 2005-12-02 23:11:52
Midwest skier, an itermediate guy looking to buy volkl 5 star. Im 6'3 200 lbs Need some help with size??? 168 or 175??? Please help. Thanks | NW vs NE Volkl Supersport 5 vs 6 Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-07 18:35:01
Rented a pair of Supersport 5 star in New Hampshire and skied at Loon and Canon with them. Loved the ski. Came back to Washington state and bought pair of Supersport 6 168mm. This ski is awesome!! It took awhile to get used to them as I came off a pair of 180 EasyRider Stockl. Skied at Crystal Mountain at 0 F degrees on icy conditions, then the weather warmed up and I skied them on crusty cruddy snow and moguls. This ski can handle any conditions grips on ice, there fast, short, quick turns and stiff. Dont know ho they handle powder. This is a advanced or expert ski as you have to be on top of the ski all the time. I would recommend the 5 star for a intermediate skier. The 6 vs. 5 is the stiffness. The 5 is alot softer ski. I am 5'7 and weigh 185 the 168mm are perfect for me. I have skied for 35 years and have some GS racing experience. Cant wait to to take them to Whistler-Blackcomb B.C.
| NW vs NE Volkl Supersport 5 vs 6 II Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-07 18:46:18
One other comment for the guy from Scotland I rented the P60s and hated them. Skied them at Sugarbush. Get the Supersport 6. For the Midwest guy 6'3"" get 175. | All mountain mogul ski Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-15 02:04:36
I'm a 45 yo 6'3" 220lb advanced skier currently using 191cm Rossignol Bandit X. All of my skiing is in the east. I have the most fun making fast, fairly short radius turns down the fall-line on intermediate to expert trails. I have no problems when the terrain's flat or with moderately sized moguls; however, with decent size moguls and firm/icy conditions I just can't get through with any grace. Part of the problem is my legs just aren't what they used to be, part of the problem is the ski's are probably too long. Any suggestions on what a good ski might be for me? I'll probably get something a year or 2 old off of E-bay. Thanks for any advice anyone has! | 168 or 175? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-25 02:50:24
Im 5'10" 160 lbs 19 yrs old and I race club GS in college. Its not that intense, so Im looking for a pair of skis that I can carve some serious GS turns on, but can also take me through the bumps from time to time. My 2004 5 stars (168's) just got stolen, so Im looking for a new pair of skis. Im looking at the 6 stars, or maybe the superspeed's and I wanted to know if anyone had advice on 168 vs. 175. From a GS stand point Im leaning toward the 175 because I need all the edge grip I can get, but I liked my old 168 5 stars. Any thoughts? Thanks | 6 stars vs sx:b5? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-27 12:38:49
i'm deciding which to buy. i like to ski agressively and like good grip on harder pistes, yet would like something to take off piste and on moguls. any thoughts? | 6 stars vs sx:b5? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-27 12:39:09
i'm deciding which to buy. i like to ski agressively and like good grip on harder pistes, yet would like something to take off piste and on moguls. any thoughts? | Tots Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-01-31 01:54:32
After 6 years of knee recovery. I'm going to ignite my new 6 stars this weekend. I gave me P30's away on e-bay and I'm so excited to get back on the slope. 6 STARS A REAL REPORT TO FOLLOW | Too narrow Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-02-03 20:39:45
Sick and tired of these kind skis being called "all-mountain". It's prob great on East coast "ice rinks" or if you spend your days on hardpack. In the deep, sometimes heavy, new snow in the US NW and Canada BC (where I spend my time) any ski with less than 78 waist is pretty useless if to be used "all-mountain". The 6* included. Get something wider unless you want to spend your new-snow days sinking like a Russian sub. | Absolutely incredible!!! Written by lusdawg on 2006-02-09 23:49:08
I recently bought a pair of the Volkl SS 6 Star skis and I must say that I absolutely love them. Mind you, I bought them for days when we haven't had fresh snow here in Colorado. Never have I skied the front side of the mountain faster, more confidently, and with more control. Skiing the bumps did take a little getting used to as they are less forgiving than my Rossi B2's; however, they have so much energy from edge to edge that it more than makes up for the stiffness of the ski. I was literally smiling at the end of each run. Pick these up as the "carver" in your quiver ... you won't be sorry! | gary Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-03-25 06:56:26
I love my 6* supersport ski's I am a heavy 240 lb 5'9'' very good skier and the 168's do anything I ask of them, carving that makes you grin from ear to ear, steep double blacks get torn up, off piste great, powder is not bad although obviously they are not as wide as a true powder ski,the faster they go, the more they like it. they do however turn your quads into concrete quite quickly, not for the faint hearted | 2006 Volkl Allstar Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-03-30 19:50:28
I think Allstar replaced SS 6 fo this year. With 70mm waist this skis are slow. They are daydreamer of a ski. Everything they do is like in slow motion. They are good in long arcs, but not fast. Perhaps they are good for 1/2 of foot of snow days ,but on Eastern hard pack they are useless 2 by 4s. Perhaps Volkl should make them softer for more versatility or may be they made for 200lbs+ skiers. I was not impressed at all. On another hand P60 GS or Custom models are so much more fun. In 173cm they could be carved into any turn and have so much pop it will make you fall into instant rhythm with them. Your legs will hurt afterwards, but “No pain, no gain”.
| 6 STAR! Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-04-09 05:38:15
I'm 5'6, 143 lbs and bought the 6 stars in a 154 cm length. Just got out for a day at Lake Louise. My observations: Groomed: amazing edge hold and ENERGY!!! Bumps: good so long as you're right on top of the ski... do not lean back! Only complaint: should I have gone longer? | 6 star Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-06-21 14:11:40
I have the 6 star in a 175 and have skied this in all conditions from ice to neck deep powder (almost drowned). the ski is not designed for powder so prob wasn't the best choice. I find this ski to be totally manageable in all conditions and not to stiff at all even with the piston binding plate. I am only 6 foot and 180 pounds and yet the ski has performed well for me as my medium radius carve ski. if you want something really fun for the front side buy a race room slalom ski. | 5 or 6 star Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-07-09 04:38:38
I am considering the purchase of either ski and would like to know what size to purchase. I am 6-1 and 200 lbs. Should I purchase a 168 or 175? | 5 star - 168 or 175??? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-10-17 17:48:54
I'm 6'1" and 195 lbs and I'm looking at buying last years' Volkl 5 stars. I'm an advanced skier and ski mostly on the East coast - I need a ski that's agile yet rock stable at high speeds. Would 168 or 175 be a better length? | Is 182cm too long? Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-10-30 09:56:31
I am 49, 6' tall & 180 lbs and an expert aggressive skier. I am currently skiing 187cm X-Screams and love them. I ski mostly off-piste, usually crud, some moguls, powder when it's there. Not many groomers unless the crud is messed up. My season pass is at Grand Targhee and I ski WY-MT-ID-UT pretty much exclusively. I found a pair of barely used Volkl SS 6 Stars at a good price. They are 182cm which seems too long for what a lot of you recommend. I have a hunch that they would work okay for me though. Does anyone have any thoughts or advice for me? Thank you so much. | Too Long Written by Ski Review Guest on 2006-12-30 07:41:32
Hi, I'm considering buying the Supersport 6 Star in 175... which sounds great until you hear that I'm 5'8 and 140 lbs. Although to make up for it I'm 22 and in excellent shape. Is this too much length for me? I usually ski a K2 Four in 177 or an Atmoic SL in 169... | Maybe Too Long Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-01-29 11:25:51
I'm 5'8" and 175 lbs...33 years old and in really good shape...I ski the 168 and could get away with a 161...if I were you, I'd try the 161 or 168 ... maybe see if the ski is still available for demoing (or maybe borrow a friend's)...good luck. | Too long or not too long Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-11-15 06:08:21
I’m 5’9 and 200lbs, 44 years, advance to expert. I tried 6* from 168 to 182. 182 absolutely the best for me. If you are aggressive skier and not afraid of high speed – go for max length!!! Great skis for all conditions and any turns. Powder? They not build for powder, but surprisingly behave very well off-piste. | We'll see Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-11-30 03:16:02
I don't even know if their a 5 or 6 Star. One board has 5 stars on it and one board has 6. Maybe this is a 5.5 star?? Picked them up today for $150 mounted with 6 days on them. I think 5 days. No scuffs, no scratches, edge peals my fingernail quite nice. 175 length heard about these a few years ago, try em out tomorrow. 6'0" 160lb lots of years. Who knows | 168cm Are supurb for VT Written by Ski Review Guest on 2007-11-30 23:09:14
I weigh 250 and they ski like a P30 203cm Very agressive but can hold ice like Ice Skates. GREAT NE SKI | |