Salomon Pocket Rocket (2005)

Is this ski fast enough for moguls?

I am tall (6'6") and about 230 pounds and ski fast, do you think the pocket rocket is too soft or can it handle a heavier rider

fine for mogels but if thats all you do might be worth looking else where. 
 
For the Big skier, I think at 230 pounds and 6'6", I would look else where the like K2 Seth pistols, thats some seriosly strong ski.

wanted to see how heavy.

Im 5'11" 175lbs and I ride on the 175's. These skis are phenomal all around skis. Excellent in the powder (as advertised) and equally as good on groomers and hard pack. The only down side I noticed is the ski is difficult to control on goomers at high speeds. This is a no-brainer given that the ski was not designed for this. They are a bit wide for moguls, but if you are 6'0'' and inder and are on the 175's you should have no problem doing a bump run here and there. But on a fresh powder day in the bowls, these skis are cream of the crop. At first I was torn between the 185's and 175's. The 185's (depending on your height) are very very difficult to control at high speeds on groomers b BUT the 185's are heaven in an open powder field. Now realistically, we RARELY get the chance to be in an open powder field, unless you are going heli skiing for the day. So for your traditional day in the bowls, on groomers, in the trees I would HIGHLY recommend the 175's. The pocket rocket is truly amazing in soft snow and powder. A bit rougher on groomers, but if you keep a moderate speed they are effortless, just be careful at high speeds as they do tend to wobble a bit because of their softness, but overall, if you are skiing in powder/soft snow condtions (West) I would HIGHLY recommend the Pocket Rocket 175 over any other ski. Hands Down! I got the 912 Ti bindings... a must have if you are an aggresive skier. If you are looking for a bit lighter weight, then go with the 810Ti... Hope this helps all you powder heads out there!

I just bought a pair of 185cm 2005 pocket rockets and I love them. Ahem, love them for what they are intended for. I have skied on every generation of them, but mostly out west (kirkwood, squaw) where they thrive. Recently I have been riding Killington and in the woods, bumbs, park, and soft snow they rip. However, they are not meant for boiler plate. They will work with some good tuning, but they take a considerable amount of energy to really dice on ice. They are not very stable at high speeds on groomers, but in the fluff the limit is much less defined. I am 6'-0" 190# and still race and train like I did in college, so this ski stands up to my abuse. I did break a pair a couple of years ago, but that was at kirkwood, and they weren't mine! anywho, get out there and rock it. I gotta go skiing. 
later.

I am looking for a ski that performs well on the groomed slopes but will allow me to get into the powder every now and then. Most of my time will be spent on the groomers, but I would like to be able to go backcountry once in a while. I am not a particularly "expert" skiier but am quite competent. At 5'11 and only 155, do you think the Pocket Rocket is adequate on the groomers? Also, any suggestions for bindings for me?

If you are to benefit from these you need to be mostly offpiste. 
For the groomed there are many skis that do it better. Try the Salomon Scramblers or the Atomic Metron M:EX if you want something more versatile.

I am 6'3" 215 lbs and was trying out the pocket rocket. I found them decent on the moguls and handled ok at medium speeds on groomers. 
Seemed ok in what little powder I could find that day and they are probably good in the park. At high speed and on ice and hard pack they were not so good. Probably too soft for my size. I hit some ice on a steep double black and there was no grip at all. Introduced myself to a tree......... I was wishing for my cheap salomon verse's with the serated edges. Not the best back country ski I'm thinking. 

I tried out some pocket rockets for a week in val d'isere and they were ok on pieste and the bumps, awsome off pieste and for the park. There are many better skis for on pieste and for bumps but not too bad for an allround ski designed for powder.

Last week I skied powder at Santa Fe on my old 195s, huffing and puffing at 12,000 feet. Ultimately the quads in both legs cramped at the top of a run. The next day we went to Taos, and this time I rented Pocket Rocket 165s. Effortless in steep powder through trees, outstanding on slopes that had already been skied a dozen times, and very good on softly packed moguls. Not wonderfully stable in a straight line on hardpack, but who cares? I can now ski trees, with total confidence. I plan to buy a pair and try them in heavier snow in the East. And I'm going to stick with 165s or maybe 170s.

a friend recently convinced me to rent a pair of PR 175's during a day of skiing in Taos  
( where the air is thin, the snow is deep, and the mountain is world class) and just after about a 6"dump. I had been skiing on a pair of Atomic Beta Cruise, 7 or 8 years old, and ski everywhere on and off piste. I must admit the Salomon P R is an amazing ski. I'm 6'2, 185, and ski hard. These skis took me everywhere. and I found that only on hard crusty, icy runs and skiing very, very fast on the groomers they underperformed. On boiler plate and skiing fast they simply don't hold an edge and tend to flap and wobble a bit. For steeps, bumps, powder and crud, trees this ski is truly great and effortless with turns. I did find that I had to keep my feet abit wider apart due to the rather wide ski that it is. When these start losing camber ( cheap soul that I am ) I will try slamming on a pair of AT bindings and go touring on them. A great ski and one that nixed out the Atomic B5 by a nose hair. Next year maybe I'll buy a pair of the Atomic's. Have fun.

I stole duncan's pocket rockets for a couple of days, and was thoroughly pleased with them. Cheers dunc!

During spring break, I demo'd a pair of PR at Grand Targhee. I expected deep pow, but I came to realize that there was none there a few weeks ago. I figured that if I put these skis in their worst conditions (that they were not made for) and still liked them, I would buy them. I skied all day on hard pack, but somewhat soft groomers. Off trail was concrete. Very close to unskiable. After skiing all day on a powder ski on groomed trails, I was impressed, and just began to imagine what they were like in their ideal conditions. The PR is a powerful ski, and held an edge suprisingly well on groomed runs. I ended up buying a pair (185) for 350 bucks, so I got a pretty good deal. Solid ski, cant wait to ride them in the fresh next season. To all the skiers progressing the sport- keep ridin hard.

I am a 125 lb 5'6" experienced chic skier of 11 years. The past four seasons i've been playing around on a snowboard, but it is definitly time to get back to skiing!!! I enjoy trees, moguls, back country, and the steeper the run the better! I am interested in twin tips not necessarily for the park (although i would like to play around in the park occasionally) but mostly just for back country kickers, riding switch, and random 180's on groomers. I have been loocking at PRs, salomon 1080s, public enemys, and volkel Karmas. what in your oppion is the best ski for me considering my size and where i like to ski? thanks

I have ski'd on 1080's since the blue 2002 model came out. I now have the 04 model. The 1080 is extremely fun to ski on--I have heard that its even a better ski for a light skier (I am 6'3''). The 1080 has a ton of pop and is very predictable. This last winter I bought a pair of PR's, and now reserve my 1080's (04 model) for rails and the park. I havent ski'd on the public enemies or the Karmas, but have heard that the Karmas are slightly stiffer than the 1080's, but made for the same kind of riding as the 1080's. After skiing the 1080's for about four years, I would recommend the 1080, the ski can handle nearly anything you throw at it. I have ski'd every condition on them, and with an 80 mm waist, they have decent float in powder. For reference, the 1080 next year is called the Thruster, The PR is called the GUN, and the new hybrid between the two is called the FOIL. The Gun and the Thruster are identical to the 05' 1080 and the PR, with exception to the top sheets. If you crave powder and off-trail, and thats mostley what you will be skiing, go with the PR. Otherwise, I would get the 1080, it wont let you down anywhere on the mountain.

Last winter i skied the rockets in Alaska and enjoyed them in the deep stuff but they are simpily to much of a noddle in my opinion. I think they perform well in the trees with powder but on anything hardpack they were no good. This season in the Vail back country i hucked a 40 footer and came out with a snapped tail. Fun ski but im going back to a wood core. cough gotama cough

I'm 5'9", 147lbs.  
I rode on 04-05 Pocket Rockets 165cm last season at Kirkwood... 800+ inches. Hehehe. I loved the PR's but a little soft... needed to hold back when the terrain was wide open. I'm a powder hound, and love the tight spots and gulllies at Kirkwood. How about these BC's? Are they stiffer than PR? The 165 PR were fine for me...a bit short at times when I want to ride big turns in rough snow. But pretty damn good for bumps. I want a ski I can let them rip when I want to make big turns in the wind-buffed or mixed powder. Will the BC let me do this? Still want the versatility and quickness and lightness of the PR, maybe only sacrifice a little for more speed. Is the Rossi BC the right ski for me?

its been almost 2 month since i bought the PR..i should tell you there amazing..i had th salomon crossmax before,compared to the PR they suck..there ideal for jumps and rails and heli-skiing..soo i realy recommend them.

how do they handle going backwards

I live in the East and am skiing on Atomic R:11's - 170's. I ski in the West once per year and sometimes in South America. I am considering a pair of PR's as a second ski for powder. I am 5'8" and weigh 160 lbs. Can anyone give me advice on length - 165's vs. 175's? Thanks.

I'm 5'4" 140lb. I ride a pair of 163cm with teli set-up. These skiis are plush. I've been hitting the slopes hard this year and so far every condition. It seems that popular opinion dictates that these skiis are a tad shakey on the groomers and everyone is correct. :"clatter, chatter" that's what happend on the chordoroy. But on the powder, wow baby, wow. like riding a snow board. I'll just bend a knee and WOOSH! I'm off and there's no constraint. I've turned so hard and "popped" into the other turn effortlessly that I felt as though I was in a powdery dream... Go get a pair... there fun....

Anyone tested both of these skiis? trying to determine which is best for me. I want them mainly for back country and powder days but it still want it to be a good all around performer. I am 5' 8 145 and ski on X screams or on my 195cm Force 9's if I am going somewhere with big groomer runs.

Salomon have stopped making PR's. Have been very lucky to get my hands on one of the last pairs in Europe at St Anton - the day before 1 meter dump. They are great in deep pow, good on ice / pistes and even handle bumps.

I'm 5'11", 170lbs, 30 yrs old, strong expert skier with 26 yrs experience, skiing on 175CM Pocket Rockets --> when I first got these skis, I spent all my time either on the double-blacks or in the bowls & trees hunting for the fresh stuff. These skis are effortless on the powder or in the trees, no question, and my best runs ever have been on these boards... Conversely, this year I've spent half my time on the moguls, where these are less than ideal (lots of effort to turn on the steep, icy, mogul runs -- turns are still slow). Also, if you don't keep up on these skis with regular waxes, the end-of-the-day run to the bar at the base on the groomed runs can be difficult. The huge footprint on these things will practially stop you on any warm wet groomed runs. After a half-season of aggresively skiing moguls (5-6 total days on the moguls) my bases started separating from the bottom of my skis and I've just had them replaced by Soloman. I plan to keep these replacement PRs to use on the EPIC POWDER days, but have come to my senses and will be picking myself up a pair of stiffer skis better suited for the days with warm wet snow or carved out moguls. (Side note: I bought the 175cm skis after demoing the 165's a few times -- I should have bought the 165s! For my ability and strength, the 175s are great but only for OPTIMAL conditions. If you're in-between sizes, not sure what size to get, or not very strong, I recommend 'down-sizing'...)

I'm a lightweight (5'11" 165#) and I have 1st gen pockets in the 185cm... since I got them I have used them as everyday skiis, so I have more days on them than probably anyone except the pros, in all kinds of West Coast conditions... I have to say I think they hold fine on groomers, but are quite scary on the ice. Probably horrible for east coast boilerplate! I think the 185cm's extra edge length helps the straightline performance and the hold on groomers. I have skiied Volant Ti Chubb's, Rossi XXX, Salomon Xscream Series, Dynaster Intuitiv 74, Atomic M:EX and Salomon 1080 (Blue ones) in the past, and these Pockets are the best and most fun all-around in the typical west coast slop... finally had a few great cold powder days this year and they were amazing, I only sink a couple of inches due to big ski footprint and light body weight and that makes for EASY turns. Probably the best thing I can say is that they are so forgiving, and great at the end of the day for tired legs, they will not punish you like an Atomic when you make a mistake. (I did LOVE the atomics on fast groomers though!!!) I'm looking for another pair for when these give out, they have 100+ days on them now and the bases are getting a little rough!!! But the point of my rant here is to get them as big as you can handle, they are so easy to handle that you can get away with a bigger size, and you'll like that extra edge length and float!!!

Been skiing PR's since 04 - NEVER rode a more fun ski. Skis great everywhere... Summit Co. powder and Beech Mountain hardpack all no problem. Hardpack and speed are effortless if you know how to make them carve. Excellent switch. Enjoy!!

I have owned 4 pairs of Pocket Rockets,and have 1 more still in wrapped up,they are a phenomenal ski for all conditions if you are an aggressive skier. I ski 185s and rip whether on powder, crude, moguls, boiler plate is the one spot they might not be the best but if you like too rip they will be fine. The only other ski I found to be a better back country ski is the AK Rockets, a big brother to the Pocket Rockets which I ski in a 195. These skis are like being on a runaway train but in total control. I am a heavy skier,over 250 lbs but have heli skied and gone cat skiing and skied most places worth skiing in the States and Whistler etc.

I am very weak skier. I've been skiing about a year now and heard all sorts of great things about these skis...they'll make you better...you can ski double diamond back bowls....  
 
Well I strapped an new pair on a few weeks ago and head for the back bowls at Vail. DAYUM! Nearly killed myself! I couldn't ski any better with these than my Volkls! 
 
I had heard with the Pocket Rockets you could really fly! But when I dropped a 45 footer I DID NOT FLY! I fell off that cliff like a rock. Search and rescue had to heli-flight me to Denver! 
 
I hate these skis! These skis nearly killed!

A new pair of skis will not make you ski any better. Your skills are not reflected by what kind of skis you own. So do not blame the skis for your fall. And how much are these skis worth? I know someone who'll sell'em to me for $125, which I think is pretty good for them.

Reading the above review had me laughing ,that after a year you hucked a 45 footer,that you were that retarded to do a cliff that big with any ski without years of experience is mindblowing.You must a watched alot of warren Miller tapes.Bozos like you are killing the sport.Most that do huck the big ones scope it out ,sometimes for days(45 isnt that big but still big enough to excersize caution) 
So if you go buy a set of Hogan golf clubs you will golf better? 
Stay home and read a book and all the other great reviews on this ski cause it is a great one,i own 4 pairs and a pair of ak rockets also,Solomon should just remake this ski it is so great.

i am decideing between the new PK(1080 guns ) nd the new rossi scratch bc. i dont know if the GUNs are too sof however i only weight 125. i am an extremely agressive skier and spend most of my time in tight/ steep trees ans need a ski that can turn on a dime. i have heard great things about the bc howvever i think they may be hard to handle in the trees. i would also like to know if these PK really are a weak a ppl say. thanx

They are amazing..freeride, jumps, trees..even piste. Ive never had such a good and funy stuff. 
I rode Karmas, Scratches, Hotrods..but nothing is like PR

Has solomon come out with a replacement ski for these great skis?like the old t birds and corvettes these skis should be made over and over.The ski is great in all but solid ice conditions,I regulary ski the face bump run at heavenly with them,i find them good in bumps,best in powder and crud.The story of the guy a few storys above is funny (not really) about breaking himself up after flying off a 45 foot cliff,after a year experience of skiing!DUH!!!What a moron.

just finished last run at niseki japan snow, snow, snow, powder for a week tried a few powder skis then tried an old pair of pocket rockets awesome so easy to turn did'nt hit a tree all week

So I've been snowboarding for 10 years and last winter, as I bootpacked my way up the ridge, I watch as the skiers skin their way past me with ease and speed. At that moment I decided I needed to try skiing. Well, after one season of skiing, SOLD would be the right word for it. I'm 6ft and 190 in camando mode and got a pair of 175 pocket rockets. They are so easy to learn on. Turn on a dime and are incredibly forgiving. I look forward to the progression of skills that these skiis allow me to learn. As far as the idiot who hucked a 45 footer, please stay home. Your putting other people in danger and raise the costs of rescue opperations-Cheers to the PR's!

I love theses skis and I've just replaced the 912 ti bindings with a pair of Black Diamond Telemark bindings. So much fun! Such a good all round ski. Waiting for a powder day now............... sigh!