Salomon Teneighty Foil (2006)

Tried these on the last day of the season before heading home (yeah, the day before you hangers-on were blessed with the mother of all dumps), and thought they were absolutely cracking. Buy a pair right now ;)

Dear Duncan Mills! 
 
Looking for your suggestions in choosing the length for my new Salomon 1080 Foil, since I won't get a chance to demo different lenghts here in Europe. 
I am 5'10", 175 lbs, 28 yo and have been on skis since I started walking. 
 
Currently I ski on 160cm K2 Mach S Comp and 160 K2 Axis X due to mostly skiing short quick turns and I find them both stable enough in higher speeds probably due to my weight. I will be keeping the S Comps for my on-piste skiing and will sell the Axis X's. 
 
Therefore I am choosing between these 2 lengths for the 1080 Foils casue I'm not looking for a bigger radius ski: 
 
a. 166cm, sidecut 124-83-113, radius 15.2m 
b. 174cm, sidecut 124-85-114, radius 17.6m 
 
I will be jibbing mostly on-piste doing jumps and some off-piste exploring. 
I don't know how twin-tips are compared to normal skis in length due to the tail and (probably) shorter running edge length. 
 
Appreciate all the help!

Of the lenghts you have mentioned, If I was you I would go for the 174. hope this helps. 
Duncan

I ski about 95 precent east... and most of that is in NY with occasional trips to VT.... I weigh like 180, and im fairly agressive out of the park... Will 174 be to small?  
My concenrs with the 182 are this....  
1. slightly wide at 87 in the waist 
2. will they be less versitile with 20.4 m radius vs 17.6 @ 174 
 
IM currently on 179 PE's 

I don't think there will be much of a difference between the two (if you're a strong skier). 
I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to make such easy quick turns, that you will be able with the 174. 
I know you are looking for that (from EpicSki) and I was too and therefore got the 174, and I can tell you it is enough ski at that length! 
 
Kpudgar

I plan to abuse my skis on ice, rocks, stumps, bumps and some occasional powder in the Northeast. I'm 6'0 and 175lbs. Is the 1080 for me?

go over too many rocks! you can get these skis a good price as they come up cheap at trade price,

I'm an advanced skier looking for an all-mountain twin-tip. I ski everthing fairly well (powder, bumps, park). I can't figure out which of these three is my best bet.

Karma's no question but can you pay the price?

I hear the wood core is better to have in the long run. ALso, that the core in the salomon skis often degrade over time. Should i be concerned with the life expectancy of these skis prior to purchasing?

yes I certainly wood!, as these things are not cheap and if, I am spending all this money I would like them to last,

I'm looking for a pair of a very versitle all mountain ski that still has a good park reputation......Public Enemys, 1080 Foils, Rossi BC Scratches, or Chonic?

Sorry, but to add to my comment above, I'm an intermidiate skier that skis the east cost, mainly VT.

I am looking to get into some twin tip skis and have heard good things about these. My question also is what size though. I am 6'4 215 so I am the gorilla on the slopes. I feel I am more advanced, and ski aggresively. Any suggestions? Thanks- The Gorilla

foils or maybe scrathes, PEs and chronics are 100% park

Has anybody compared the guns vs. the foils?

I'm 6' 210 and I'm trying to decide on the 174 Foil vs. 182. Any suggestions out there?

Straight up which one is better for the powder and the bumps: Karma's or the Line Prophet's.

I am starting to do freestyle skiing this year for a race club i go to. I am 15 years old and i have been skiing since i have been walking. I am 5'3 and 125 lbs. I was wondering if the Foils (and if i should definitely get the 150?) would be a good ski for me. I am an all around skiier and i can ski just about everything everywhere.

I live in south England, breat Britain, so the chance of getting a good dump of snow is about as likely as seeing a pig in a gimp suit jump Niagra falls. Bearing this in mind, i ski mainly on a dry slope near me, and plan to go to either canada, france or possibly both in the next few years to get my CSIA and BASI instructor awards. would the 1080 flyers in 161 be ok for me? I'm about 5'9" and about 74 kilos.

no look at a length closer to 170

I'm looking for a ski that does everything well, but doesn't have to specialize in anything. I ski mostly groomed and park and consider myself a lesser skilled advanced skier. Basically, I am looking for a great all around ski that does everything.

i want to use the 1080 foils as a tele ski. i'm 5'9" and 155 lbs, should i get the 166 or 171?

171, and then rip it!

i guess they are 174 not 171,  
so the longer the better huh, even for fat skis? what if i get the 1080 guns?

Yeh sure, the Foil skis ok, as does the other Salomon skis. However, for the price, get a proper ski that lasts and doesnt lose its flex. I just dont want you guys wasting your money. Karma, Public Enemy, Prophet are much better skis. Questions? E-mail me at jamesclark86@hotmail.com. Disagree? You don't ski properly.

I've been looking at the karmas, public enemys and the foils for skis. I'm 5'-6'' but I only wiegh 100 pounds. I'm a farely aggresive skiers who would like some skis that can rip up the whole mountain. What skis should I get? and what size ski?

Looking to move on from my 180 X-screams (8 seasons old). 250lbs, 6ft, intermediate (hates bumps and no ability off-piste. What skis and bindings do you recommend for skiing mostly in Colorado

its does not really matter as long as they fit, most of the time you get a package deal,

ive been waiting for my prophets for damn near 3 months, the whole situation is bogus, so i am looking for another ski to take its place, any suggestions? aggressive, all mountain, pretty skilled but still advancing, 5'9" 150lbs, osbflier@hotmail.com

I'm in the market for a new pair of skis. I'm an agressive, relatively advanced skier, but by no means an expert. I ski groomers, ice, bumps, trees, powder (whenever I can find it), and ocassionally/rarely park (I'm not very good at it). I ski mostly in the New England region (mainly VT). I do not want a park/jib ski by any means, but I thoroughly enjoy skiing backwards, so I definetly want a twin-tip. In summary I basically want a well rounded, all-mountain, twin-tip ski. Sorry for the long-winded description.

Has anbody riden the Volkl Mantra? 

I'm looking at the Salomon Guns, Foil, or Volkl Karmas. I'm 5'6" and 160 lbs and an advanced skiier, doing both groomers, powder, and park. Which length and which ski would be best for me? 
 
email me at flipxor@yahoo.com

volkl karmas rock my world

I hear a lot about the Salomon 1080 foils not being a good ski for the long run but has anybody actually skied through a pair yet... not including the usual rock incidents? 

Hi, I am 5'8" and weigh 150-155. I am a stron intermediate or beginning advanced. I ski mostly off piste and if not it is on the groomed. Should I look at the 166 or 174. I am on 165 Pocket rockets now. Thanks

Honest-Experienced advice/opinion needed. Own a pair of `unused` 175cm S.Guns, considering changing to 185cm? I`m 6`/183cm and 182lbs/82.5kg. Adv/Exp level and Ski 50% off piste & the rest park/ wherever. Should I go longer?Reply to: gjester99@hotmail.com Thanks!

need advice on the best all mountain/terrain ski around. looked at 1080's and karmas. 5'11" 180lbs and been skiing for a 1 1/2 yrs. advanced (quickly) beyond the k2 escape 3500's i bought to learn on and looking for a great all around ski that will help me advance over the next few years as i get deeper in the bumps, powder, etc. colorado skiing. suggestions please!!!!!

Hey, I'm a intermediate skier that likes to do stuff outside my comfort zone esp. in the park. I need a strong park ski with good all-mountain capabilities. Do you recommend the Foil, Prophet, Scratch or Chronic?

Does anyone know anything about the Line Invaders? Are they any good outside the park?

I tried both skis in a 166 today. Im 170lb 5'9" expert skier in Kootenays of BC. Hard conditions today. The foil was easier turning lighter and more fun. The Salomon rep suggsted a 174 Foil would be best for me. I felt the 166 was great for the ugly conditions of today. Sure would like to try them in powder!

What is the best all mountain ski out there? I am 6'0 and 145 lbs. I've been skiing for 15 years. I am trying to find a good all mountain ski for out west (USA). I am between the 1080s and the Karmas, but have also been looking at the 4frnts. Could any one give me some solid advice.

i am about 145 pounds and am about 5' 7" and i dont know wat size ski i should get. please help!!! 

any thoughts on the salomon lineup? pilot scream 8, scream 10 hot, foil, gun? i ski in maine which entails groomed, park, occasional powder. i have been skiing for 15 years, not the most aggressive but like to ski fast, sometimes bumps, rarely powder. i am 6'1" and weigh 250. any advice much appreciated.

In answer to your questions about weight.. im 6'0" 190lbs and I ride 174 and they are perfect. If you weigh more than 200, you might want to think about the 182s. These are light and great in the park. Even better in the trees and perform amazing in the powder. They are not that great on crud though and I had some trouble carving through that this past weekend when the conditions sucked. They also chatter a little when you are taking high speeds on groomers so you need to keep your weight forward in those conditions. All around, I think its a great ski and Salomon got it right.

I'm about 5'5'' and 125lbs. looking into getting a pair of Line 'mothership flite' 162cm. would that be too long for me? joh582@hotmail.com

any advice on these powder skis. I am 6'1" 185lbs and ski on fisher rc4 worldcup sc slalom length 170cm. do I go for the 173cm or the 183cm. sidecut is very similar on both. would appreciate your comments

Just bought 174 Foils. Im 5'9" 170 lb expert skier at Red Mnt BC (a Big Western mountain). The Foils are light, quick and agile. THe do get tossed around in stiff crud. The are great in powder and carve the hardpack and bumps. I wish they were softer. The are easier handling than the Guns (Not as stiff or plankly). Great ski that is a lot of fun.  
Also tried the 2006 Bandit B3, Kootenay powder sticks, 2006 Salomon Gun, 2004 Volant Chubb, old volkl explosive, Atomics, Extra hot pilot, Blizzard Titan 8.2, etc. Bandit was the 2nd choice. My favorite ski still is the Volant Powerkarve and the old chubb.

i don't have the money for the foil is the flyer a good substitute? i am a intermediate skier mostly piste but i am looking at doin a lot more off piste, i hear bad things about the edges on the flyer can anyone give me any thing to warrent that?

Foils for $299 at a local sports shop... look around they get cheap

I weigh about 167 and am 5'9". Would 166 Foils work fine for me?

I am looking to buy some salomon foils. I am 5'10'' and weigh 150lbs. I like to ski everything. The pow, park and on-piste. I would say I am a advanced skier.

174

What is the tip/tail height?

These skis are sooooo sick. I just demoed them for the day amd i had so much fun. I mostly did high speed carving and riding switch and these skis and sweet. I was concerned about how these skis would carve on the groomers but the first time i took them down, i loved them. I would definatly recommmed these skis to anyone who is looking to have a fun time on any terrain.

I found a good deal on a pair of PE's, and was wondering if I should get the FOILS or the PE's if I want to do more of everything. I like to ski bumps, and basically everything, not much terrain park though. Which is the better choice?

I am currently looking for a new pair of twin tip skiis. I am 5'10 180lbs. and live in upstate NY. I am looking for a ski that is good in the park but can also handle all the ice that is associated with the east coast. FOIL or other?

I just bought a set of Foils in 166 size. I'm 5'10" 175 and came from skiing a 168 2nd year teneighty. I demo'ed the 166 and 174 beforehand. I found because of the stiffness the 174 didn't handle as well in the trees and bumps. However, they handled better at high speeds on the cruisers. Pick your poision i guess. I'm mostly a quick turner skiing on the non - groomed stuff. Pick your size depending on your weight and skiing style.

Trying to decide between the 174 and the 182. Are the 182's going to make much of a difference in the powder? Whats the trade off?

I have noticed that there have been quite a few comments about the core degrading over time. As it is not a wood core, should I be worried about the flex going out of them over a shorter period of time than normal? Thanks.

I am 5'9" 170 and I got the 166s over the 174s. I skied two full days on them right after I got them, and I was not disappointed with the length at all! I especially appreciated them on the extremely steep sections where it almost took zero effort to get those suckers turned. Provided plenty of stability on all of the snow conditions that i came across. Float in powder was more than what I expected, but I did just come from 191 Volkls which were really bad. 166 also was easy to spin in the park as well.

6" 200lb. Intermediate to advanced skiing trees and groomers. I was on 174 and loved the easy turns. Will I be better in the long run with a longer ski?

I have been on skis all my life I'm 21 years old and a very aggresive skier. I'm 6'2" 185lbs. What size length ski should I be looking at?

Salomon Foil 174, I demoed them last year and they are beautiful.  
I am 5'10", 145lbs 24yr and in awesome shape. I have tried alot skis and longer length skis wether fat or regular skis on groomers are were its at. Like if all I was skiing was groomers and open powder bowls I would not hesitate to go with 185 Gun or 182 Foil. But if you go into the park or hunt for the freshies in the trees 165 Gun or 174 Foil are the ticket. Choices Choices.

I'm 5'4'' and I only weigh about 115 but I am a very aggressive skier, will the Karmas be too stiff?

I want to take my Foils in the park. I am 5 10 and about 160 lbs. Will the 166s be the better choice for maneuverability, or will that sacrifice too much length? Thanks (I also ski a lot of groomers)

I'm 5'8 and I have a pair of Foils, I also weigh about 155-160 and I couldn't love these skis more.

So I solved the good old length situation everyone seems to be having...I bought a pair of Gun 174's for those good old pow days, and I also bought a pair of Foil 174's for those days when the snow is packed down nice. I am 6'1 and about 205 lbs.

I believe that the 1080 Foils are great (especially when first demo'd), however, they seriously degrade quite quickly, within a season and a half the core is gone and they flex up too much. The Karma's are stiff, yes - but a great all round ski. They are heavier (think about what binding you mount), but they handle a bunch of differing conditions better. They are not going to fall to pieces like the Foils historically have. I skied two seasons on a pair of Karma's in Colorado - 5 days a week and they are still in one piece! Karma's are not exceptionally maneuverable in the trees & park, but you deal with it and they romp every other condition! Mantra's are a wicked powder ski - but thats the extent of them - not great all round - Gotama's even better powder ski!  
Just think about what you need out of the skis and ensure you invest your coin in the right way. Keep ripping it up!

I am 5'10" and weigh 140 pounds. I am not sure whether to go with the 166 or 174. What do you think?

I've found a well priced set of Foil's online and the shop currently have 166's or 182's in stock. 
 
I'm an intermediate to advanced skier, 5'10'' and about 205 pounds.  
 
I ski mainly on piste but want to move into the parks and off-piste more. 
 
What size would you suggest? 
 
Anybody's advice would be greatly appreciated. 

They are the best all around twin tip ever. Cannot go wrong with the Foil.

I am 5'11-6ft and weigh about 147 pounds. 
 
This is my first year skiing but advanced very fast and ski aggressively. I can also get down most terrain. I am looking for a twin tip where I can ride on and off trails. Plus kill it in the park.

If you're going to use them for mostly park, go for the 166's, since they're lighter and thinner. If you're looking for an off-piste beast, definitely ride the 174's or the 182's since they are fatter and probably can cut through more snow.

I'm about 5' 6" and weigh about 150. I usually ski powder, but I can rip up the hardpack too (both are skied VERY aggressivly). I dont do a lot of park skiing. Mainly I do backcountry jumps and drop-offs. I dont know whether to get 174's or 166's or if I should just get Bandit B2's. Any advice would be appreciated.

Great ski!!!!!!! The best ski ever

What does the term "dual boot center" mean? 
 
Hal

I just bought a pair of 182cm 1080 foils for $100. I saw them at the Friday Sale where a guy buys whole lots of damaged or blemished stuff. I bought them before I even knew how good they were. Didn't matter, they're Salomon, so how bad could they be? Now I can afford to put the new Fritschi Backcountry binding on them...c'mon pow!!!!!!!!!

I took a pair of foils to Vale last April and they were mega in all conditions. 
 
I admit i didnt take them in the park - and perhaps this is a little odd in that i got 1080's and dont plan on doing much if any park stuff. 
 
I found them quick - easy to turn and responsive on the groomers - 
 
I found they floated well in the powder - even the deeeeeeep waist high stuff on the back bowls when i managed to sneak in while it was closed one morning when the nasty weather came in. 
 
They are a brilliant ski and going switch is alot of fun when your learning. 
 
Im 6'1 and weight about 15st 
 
I took a pair that were 164 somethings and they were SHORT - it was kinda like skiing long blades and I have since bought me some 174's 
 
Off to France next week and im expecting big things. 
 
JB

I'm looking for an all mountain ski but I'm not sure whether to go for the 2006 foils or the 2007 rossignol b2 bandits. Anyone know which is better?

Just packing up after 2nd Seasons use. An exelent all round ski for any one that wants 1 pair of ski's that are a jack of all trades. They are the masters of all, but speed.