Stockli Snake (2005)

Hi ! Did you test it on piste ? How does it perform (in comparison to a legend 8000 for example) ? 
 
Anyway I'm surprised that the rep said there are no return, because I've read a lot of feedback about the phenol sidewalls on Stormriders which are relatively fragile.

I did take the Snake on the piste. We went off down a blue then a black - they had both been groomed and it was late morning and quiet in Zermatt so the conditions where holding but did start to turn to spring slush about 1-2pm. 
 
The answer to your question about how they compare is a difficult one as the Dynastar legend 8000 is a different type of ski, the natural turning arc of the Snake was not amazing but with effort it gave grip and feed back.  
Your answer to the phenol sidewalls on the stormriders, I can only go on what the rep said. I don’t think he was telling porkies. I will contact him and ask him and get back to you on that one. 
 
 
Hope this helps 
 
Duncan

Thank you it really helps ! I was just wondering if the snake would be a good all mountain ski like a legend 8000 or a Movement Demon Flame (there will be a lot a skis in that range next year, so it's difficult to choose!). 
 
For the stormriders, there are some guys on skipass.com (french ski forum) who have reported to have used the warranty for replacing their Stormriders DP (broken sidewalls).

The snake is a park/free ride ski so you have the park sorted, but I would not fancy using in instead of the legend 8000/DemonFlames in the back country. I personally have not been on the Legends, but I have been on the DemonFlame (review coming soon) its a good ski. 
 
Advice would be to get on a pair (I know thats hard) but i really depends on how good you are and want type of skiing you want to do. 
 
Regards 
 
Duncan

This is a great site and very informative! Maybe you can give me a bit of advise. 
 
I have been skiing for 23 years (average of 2 weeks/year) on traditional skis. I am now 28. 2 years ago I tried the Salomon Xscreams and completely fell in love with this ski. Because of the Xscreams, I am skiing more off than on piste and I like it a lot. At the moment I am looking for new skis. Stöckli has caught my attention, especially the Stormrider and the Snake. I have seen the Snake in a shop and liked the appearance.  
 
What do you think is a better buy, the Snake or the Stormrider (DP?) if you take in account that I am looking for a ski which will do (60% off/ 40% on piste)? And what length? My Xscreams are 179 cm. My style is very subtle and smooth and I am stronger than the average skier.  
 
Would you advise the Snake / Stormrider over the Xscreams? I am aware of the difficulty to compare skis and judge a skier by the internet, but I hope that you can give me advise that none of the salespersons in the Netherlands (yes, the Mountainless Country) is able to give? 
 
Yours truly 
 
Pieter Groen 
Rotterdam, The Netherlands 

Just to sum up my day of skiing on a Snake in one word, FUN! I too could not stop laughing and had a huge grin on my face the entire day, carving sweet S turns and bopping through the bumps. The Snake was perfectly tight ripping through corduroy, crud, and the shaved ice in between. I cannot wait to go off piste on a big PHAT powder day with these skis! I am 1.88 meters tall and bought the 180s and LOVE THEM. I highly recommend the Snake for bombing everything the mountain has to offer!

Hey Pieter, 
 
As a salesperson and Stockli snake owner (and being a dutchman) i can give you advice :-) 
Ill prefer the Stockli from a construction/quality viewpoint above the salomon. No question about that. 
As skiing the Snake goes. I'm 186cm tall and 80 kg and medium experianced. I find the Snake to be challenging. Its very lively and it performs well on piste also very high speeds are doable as long you keep the presure on the front. In my opinion not a begginers ski and with a lot of potential for experianced skiers. 
I have the binding in the powder position and it makes for me the ideal ski for going off piste were i can but being able to rip the piste in between. 
I love them. 
 
Ron (rondoorakker@hotmail.com)

who wrote that snake review?? THe first two paragraphs were about appearance - is this site full of posers or what? If i'm reading a review I want to know how the ski stacks up. Was the cut good - did it hold at high speeds? How did you have your bindings set for the powder?  
 
I ski DP's and Laser's for carving. DP's do not hold on piste if you're executed large GS turns. A bigger side cut would do the trick unless you want to ski parallel old school style.  
 
Who cares that the snake has snake skin cover? And metal ski tips? If you buy a ski for its looks, and not for its performance, you don't deserve Stocklis. case closed

Who wrote it? It clearly states the author in the review. 
 
In my opinion to review the Snake and not mention the topsheet would be a travesty - it is a review right? Yes there were 2 paragraphs but there were further 5 after that. 
 
As for wanting to know about binding setting for powder - it clearly states that the little powder there was was chopped up. 
 
Who cares about its topsheet and metal tips? The consumer! The aim of a review is to review all aspects of a product, not just a narrow minded opinion. 
 
Case closed? What case?

Hello Riders 
I am planning to purchase the Stoeckli Snake. What kind of Binding would you recommend? 
Pete

Hello All 
My new snakes are getting tuned up as we speak so I am just trying to make sure that I did the right thing. 
 
I live in the U.S. and not near anything like the rockies (Minnesota). I am a ski instructor here in MN where I mostly ski on hills not mountains. 
 
Being on hills I need something that will work well in the park seeing as that is the most exciting thing I can do around here. Besides racing!  
 
However I do get out to the mountains at least for a week or two every year and I want something that will handle powder well as park and hopefully something that will perform on a good groomed hill as well.  
 
I LOVE MY STOCKLI SCs for racing which is what I do most of the winter so I thought I would stay true to Stockli with my all around ski.  
 
Thanks for any assurance Riley

Wonderful skis! I've taken them in the park and out on some steep terrain (groomed unfortunately). I'll hit the powder in a week or two and I'm sure they'll be great. 
 
PS: I put the Salomon S912s on for bindings (Their pocket rocket binding) It has worked great the few times ive been on on them. 
 
-Riley

Ive got LOOK Pivots P12 on it. Work fine too

Just back from a week in Tignes using these. Totally amazing ski's. First run on the piste on these and I was buzzing, VERY fast for big GS turns, grip ice unbelievably well. Off piste, well I skied my first proper extreme couloir and the skis gave maximum confidence. In both tracked and un-tracked powder they were SO easy. Why have I been buying crap over priced skis from the big manufacturers for so long? Stockli skis are HIGHLY RECCOMENDED.

do you know were I can buy these fantastic skies?

Hy people 
I'm 22 years, 180 cm, 90 kg from Switzerland. I'm surfing on Internet searching some imformation for an all-mountain ski. I hade the rossignol pow-air, but its shit. It's not good for going fast, turn on ice and surf in powder. I would buy the K2 Made'n AK, but i rode that it's a soft ski, so not good for ice and speed, for the piste. I wonder if the stöckli snake or the movement thunder are large inoff for big-powder? if not, witch ski do you recommend for going fast on piste, do agressive speed-turns (ice also), have some fun in the park, and very important: surf in the powder? thanks for answeres. CIAO

I've done a few runs on them with Rainey HammerHeads ;) Conditions were somewhat spring-like groomers. The skis are not quite as bouncy at the end of the turn as Super Stinx, but much better edge-holding, quicker, smoother, faster turn initiation, and a real joy! Just make sure you get them up on edge quickly.

best ski for haulling ass in the big mountains

I am currently looking at two all mountain skis- the Rossignol Bandit B2's and the Stockli Snakes. Which should I get for the best all mountain ski??? Is there another ski I should look at also?? One last thing- what is so much better about the new 2006 Snake than the 2005 model?? ANY FEEDBACK IS APPRECIATED!!! thanks!

I wanted everyone to Know there are Stockli Snake 170cm on ebay right now! 
Item number: 8768082281

Be careful where you put your snakes! You'll get a lot of comments on the slope (admiring ones) which attracts attention which eventually led to them being stolen after only having them for 4 days so if you see a pair of snakes (2005 model) with salomon 912 Ti bindings on ebay let me know on iamafakeemail@hotmail.co.uk 
 
Enjoy your skis, just hold onto them! Cheers.

I purchased the Snakes a few weeks ago, 180cm & have ridden them 6 days this season so far. 
 
Ridden them through small amounts of powder, thick/heavy snow, hard cover (ice) & slush. Excellent edge hold and all-round performance - no complaints.  
It's stiffness makes it better than the Salomon 1080 in my opinion. 
 
As for the construction of the ski: 
- the metal tips are each end are a great idea, however I've had to use an allen key to tighten it up as the screw was coming loose and they rattled around after the 2nd day. 
- the topsheet looks great, however due to it being a topsheet it's actually getting scratched on the edges fairly easily.. purely cosmetic though. 
 
Overall, I'd say this is a great ski and I definitely recommend. As the poster above mentions, it's a good idea to get a chain/lock to hopefully stop theft. 
 
- Greg