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Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)

The Dynastar Trouble Maker - a park ski designed by the Dynastar freestyle team. I took them out up at the Tignes Glacier this time with a lot more snow than two weeks ago.  Sadly…flat light - so the park was out of the question - but 4 hours piste skiing wasn’t, so this will have to do until we get better weather.

Model: Dynastar Trouble Maker
Size(cm) / Radius(m): 155/16 165/18 175/21 182/22
Sidecut : 112-78-102
Length tested: 175

Manufacturer’s Description:

"For New School and all mountain freestyle skiers who demand high performance, control, and great ski ability. Created for dynamic spins, maximum amplitude, and increased style in the park and pipe and natural hits."

Ski-Review’s verdict:

Last seasons graphics which have not changed much (if at all to my eyes), but which do change colour depending on which angle you look at them - pearlescent?  A very cool and distinctive base - what a tart I am!

These skis where first brought to my immediate attention, by a friend of mine who runs a ski shop, Ray Scott - he is not a freestyle skier, so I was intrigued to see what he was banging on about.

So lets go..

The bindings are mounted more or less in the middle of the ski (you either love it or hate it).  I am a fan personally, especially for the landings in the park, rails etc.

To start with I was all over the place - I just could not find my feet, I found the brakes from the bindings catching - booting out and all sorts, so I was not a happy chappy.  This went on for a hour or so until (phew!) it was lunch time.  Quick coffee and some food then back out - refreshed and educated from the mornings antics.

The light was better & more snow had fallen.

Firmly in my mind was the fact that the skis had problems carving due to the brakes catching as well as booting out (reason: no riser - not a good idea for a park ski) I had a good afternoon.  Did not thrash them around like carve ski - I just had a good days skiing looking where I was going and picking my line carefully.

Conclusion?

Not the sort of ski you thrash around the slopes, but a good fun easy ski, made for the park and that my friends, is what it does - I just can’t wait to get back to Tignes when the park is open.

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Reader Ski Reviews of the Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 12/30 at 03:34 AM

Why did u do a review of these without going in the park or moguls?  U can’t carve on these, u can’t turn on these.  U ain’t supposed to.  Sigh.  I find they are decent in the park, if I ever screw up a jump or something they won’t catch an edge and I can pull it out.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Duncan Mills on 01/13 at 09:12 PM

Yes they are not a carve ski, but if the park was shut…always make the best of a bad situation!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/22 at 03:59 PM

Anyone know how these differ to the old candides?

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 03/09 at 04:16 AM

these skis suck the edges are so weak!!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 04/09 at 04:57 PM

if you read any reviews that are on a newschool sight they are one of the best all around and park pipe ski and they have fairly good edges for rails but one of the best skis i have ever ridden

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 04/14 at 03:20 PM

These are the best twin tips I have ever skied on. If you can’t carve them, learn to ski!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 04/28 at 01:05 PM

I’ve skied on Troublemakers on dryslope, indoor snow slopes and on 4 skiing holidays abroad! They are excellent!  The base is tough (great for dry) The turn radius is the same as all the other twin tips so don’t think about how they carve, they’re all the same!  Long tails are strange but still hold up doing 40-50mph super-g turns.  Very very light and manouverable! Worth riser plates unless you spend 100% of your time doing rails! I have them, no problem of brakes catching. One down point, the top surface is weak so scratches and cuts up in the queues easily, although it means you get loads of iron cross edge marks along the font of the ski making you look like a hardcore freestyler! Verdict: Only Rossi Scratches are better!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 07/16 at 11:05 PM

I’m hoping someone can help! I’ve bought some brand new Dynastar Troublemakers from Ebay. I wasn’t sure if they’d be the right kind of ski for me, but they were a bargain at £75 so I decided to get them, and if they’re not right for me, I’ll sell them on when the skiing season gets underway. Thing is, If I fit bindings and give them a go (I ski on realish snow at Castleford slope), they won’t be brand new anymore, so I won’t be able to sell them as such. Although I want to to have my first taste of off-piste,  jumps and half-pipes this winter, I’ll be on the piste 99% of the time. So my question is does anyone know anything about how these skis perform, and if so, do you think they’d be suitable for a lot of time on-piste? I’d say my level is probably intermediate… I’m happiest on the red slopes, but haven’t ventured onto any blacks yet.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Duncan Mills on 07/25 at 12:36 AM

I am actually a owner of pair of these skis, and I will happily ski around the piste on them, you got an alpine bargain for £75!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 08/14 at 01:11 PM

Buy them, then sell them to a hood on the street for some crack, that is what these skis are good for!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 11/07 at 10:43 PM

i loved my candides….why did i sell them for 1080’s that blew an edge on my first run?  F

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 12/08 at 11:52 PM

my buddy has a pair of these with salomon bindings for $100…i was planning on buying line invaders though. are these skis soft enough to pull nutty butters on?

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 12/20 at 11:29 PM

I purchased these skis and have had nothing but good experiences ever since. I’m not sure why there are even negative comments regarding this ski. These skis were not designed to carve and if you buy them for carving then you are silly. These skis carve very well considering their price and they are top performers as far as i’m concerned. Pound for pound the best ski I have ever bought.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 12/24 at 08:36 AM

heres the deal, they carve quite well, hold an edge very nicely in pipe, are amazing on jumps (Always willing to support your ass on backseat landings) and flex well enough to butter but still stiff enough to jump.

now that sounds like the perfect park ski doesnt it?

unfortunetly these skis have very weak edges, which are prone to falling out much quicker than most skis. The edge teeth only go about half as deep into the ski as your regular edge on any other ski, this is a big problem.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 01/08 at 08:09 PM

Great for the park and quick turns. Not so great for much else. If your looking for a more versatile twin, buy something else, these skis are way to soft for all-mountain skiing.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 01/11 at 01:22 AM

i can carve on these skis and theyr sweet in the park if you want edges get some carving skis

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/02 at 03:51 AM

nice and fatty, great in powder, especially with fat manuels(great flex)

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/04 at 11:45 PM

well at first I loved them, but this season they have been a bitch to me. the edges stared to fall out and I cracked the core and there are so felxy that I have to land everything super clean. so over all I don’t like them much

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/05 at 05:40 PM

if you’re used to race/carve skis these feel odd at first but when you get used to having such long tails you’ll soon be tearing up hard pack like you were on GS race planks and there’s plenty of grip - not limitless, but ok.  they’re stiff enough for bashing through crud but have got just the right flex pattern to be forgiving to land on in the park. maybe i’ve been lucky but i’ve had no problem with the edges despite tearing big chunks out of the bases on rocks and rails.  i only wish they were a bit fatter for   deeper powder days…thats where the big troubles come in i suppose.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/18 at 07:48 AM

the edges r great for spins, and as someone said, the tails are great at supporting u if u are about to land on your ass

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/23 at 08:15 PM

i can carve my troubles easy..granted thats not there intended purpous but i think they can do what ever you whant them to. the bottoms are realy tough i mean realy and the 06 has a thicker edge under foot for the rail great skis all around steeps bumps pow and the park its not the ski its the skier in most cases..latz…ski TAos

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 11/08 at 02:16 PM

I was looking at buying a pair of these for all-mountain and was wondering if anyone has tried them with the bindings behind center. Also how do they compare to the K2 PE and the new Silencer?

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 11/20 at 12:55 PM

These are great park/pipe skis but they suffer from edge durability. The newer models have improved edges with a double edge. Check it out. It’s awesome for rails.

Dynastar Troublemaker gear review by Brian

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 01/31 at 03:35 PM

Does anyone know a pair of Troublemakers for a decent price? I am looking for a pair but do not want to spend a bunch.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/25 at 10:02 PM

These rock! Have skied on these for many weeks on end, and they are the “mutts nutts”!!  I strongly suggest you have some ski lessons if you can’t carve these puppies!!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 05/07 at 08:37 AM

I’ve been skiing on the Trouble Maker for several years.  If ou know how to ski, they carve, ski great in the moguls & obvioucly are a good park ski.  The only concerns I have with this ski are in deep powder.  The tips submerge fairly easy.  A great bargin.  Whoever doesn’t like this ski, can’t ski…..

End of story

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 10/22 at 03:26 AM

ive skied these for two years now and they are as legit as it gets.  ive done everything from rails bumps trees backyards urban and even 20inches of fresh pow at alta and they killed it at everything.  i also ski tons of groomers in the east and i can carve better and faster than the whole friken race team. if yu can’t carve these babies you should probably just quit at life.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/13 at 08:45 AM

My wife has been patroling these skis at Loveland, Tele for three years.  I think the soft issue helps with the tele.  Now she wants a bigger T1 boot and some stiffer skis.  It will be hard to replace these with something that does everything well.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/16 at 06:41 PM

should i center mount mine? what are the pros and cons for center mounting and where else do people mount these?

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 02/17 at 05:56 AM

This year, is needed new skis. I looked at the k2 public enemys and the salomon 1080 foils, then i saw the dynastar trouble makers. they look good and feel good. They are great for the entire mountain. Groomed, powder, and the park. If your looking for a great ski, buy the dynastar trouble makers. I’m glad I did!

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 10/09 at 01:20 PM

dude, if u cant carve these, your probably not on the snow

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 12/01 at 03:06 AM

I just got these skies and this is pretty much the most legit skis around. carving is so easy and if you can’t do it go back home and convert to snowboarding

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 10/12 at 12:35 AM

These skis are very heavy and hard to spin on. 

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 10/21 at 04:09 PM

I have skiied on troublemakers since thier conception years back. I special ordered a pair of first gen’s cause nobody in my area stocked them at the time.  I have been skiing since childhood, worked as a PSIA instructor for years, and have been on about every manufacturers ski at some point in time.

These twins are the smoothest, most responsive skis I have ever been on.  I rode them in pit deep powder at VAIL and they rocked, they carve like a sharp knife through a pumpkin, the edges are solid and hold at high g force.  In the park they are lively, and predictable.

I am noe on my seocnd pair and will not ski another ski until they stop making the trouble.

The problem that I see with the reviewer is that he tested them with a center mount binding without ever learning to ride center mount prior to these skis. I is way different, you have to adjust and reteach yourself how to do things like carve and balance because you are riding further up on the front than with traditional mounts.  Any ski that you take out w ith center mount will feel alien and make you feel like a beginner for a few days until u dial it in. 

These skis will take you where you want to go if you have the derive to get there.

I dont understand how mr. reviewer couldnt carve and booted out alot? I have had mine down to hip on hardpack carving and not booted out.  May his binding choice wasnt good. I ride with solomon ti912’s and its a sweet relationship, never booted out. He probably was riding on park bindings which are not good for anything but park.

Dynastar Trouble Maker (2005)
Written by Ski Review Guest on 10/21 at 04:33 PM

So having told everyone the Troublemakers were center mounted he was just giving his experience with the skis. Center mounted, he found the skis to boot around a lot (to start with).

You didn’t - that’s great. Not everyone, including people more and less qualified than you will think they are the best skis in the world.

Thanks for sharing your experiences—useful info on the mount - but remember, he ain’t you and you ain’t him.

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